Eerie Descent
12:29 Fri Jul 1
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It was a right laugh.
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collyrob
12:04 Fri Jul 1
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What was The Joker pub in Ilford like back in the day.
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terry-h
11:11 Fri Jul 1
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Murder may have been in Ilford but the alleged killer lived in Church Elm Lane Dagenham.
That part of Ilford near Valentines Park is still quite respectable.
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Westham67
9:29 Thu Jun 30
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I know his father he's a wrong un as well. Stiched his best mate up
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Browno22
8:46 Thu Jun 30
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Gentrified = try to move white people back in
Romford is more likely to be gentrified. Ilford is too far gone and isn't far off east ham or shitechapel
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southwoodford
8:21 Thu Jun 30
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Ilford started its visible decline in the 1980s. Until then it was an aspirational and largely cohesive community of honest families and environmentally unrecognisable from the horrible area it has become. It's the people that make a place so draw your own conclusions. My experience is that the decline started with the influx of outsiders from the real rough parts of East London together with immigrants from Pakistan, Bangladesh, Somalia and more recently, Eastern Europe. the only thing they had in common was that they were poor, uneducated, low skilled and socially unintegrated - in other words they brought nothing of value with them. If you wonder why so many of us moved out, look no further. I realise that my comments will offend some and I make no apology for that but as a 70 year old who was born, educated and grew up in the area I know what I observed. And it wasn't pretty.
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Far Cough
8:14 Thu Jun 30
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Stratford is being gentrified, so it could happen
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REALGSA
8:08 Thu Jun 30
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Ilford needs to be gentrified!
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Grumpster
6:49 Thu Jun 30
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Seems madness to think I'd travel there from hornchurch to go on the piss ahead of local and romford 20 years ago.
Had some passable pubs and clubs full of absolute slags.
Wouldn't be seen dead there nowadays, or should I say if I now went there I'd end up dead as the demographic has changed hugely.
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Eerie Descent
6:29 Thu Jun 30
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It's an absolute mystery why it's become such a shithole.
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JAC
6:27 Thu Jun 30
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Ilford is sadly a shithole along with East Ham and Barking/Romford.
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lincslink
4:56 Thu Jun 30
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I was born in Ilford but my family moved in the 70’s, used to go bus hopping in the holidays. Had some good mates there.
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Side of Ham
12:33 Thu Jun 30
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*as small (not assail)
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Side of Ham
12:32 Thu Jun 30
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I think Ilford suffered from there being slightly better places for small families to live just a few miles away, and it was moved to in masses by Jewish & Asian communities who liked the bigger houses so they could move in as big families. Many Ilford people I know moved slightly outwards as more homes were available for smaller families. It's just the different dynamic of how the English culture choose to get their own space assail as that may be whereas people from foreign cultures will tend to want to share living space, and Ilford was known for having many huge homes.
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slartibartfast
12:19 Thu Jun 30
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I find the arguments in favour of capital punishment in these cases increasingly difficult to deny. What mercy does such scum deserve? What good can he do to society or himself?
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Toe Rag
12:08 Thu Jun 30
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Looks like someone I know who’s currently banged up for rape, kidnap and making indecent images of children, who I’m pretty certain, will upon release, murder some poor woman or girl.
Kill it with fire.
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Far Cough
12:00 Thu Jun 30
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I was brought up in the Barnardos village in Barkingside, we would as a treat get all dressed up in our Sunday best to go to Ilford, laughable nowadays but I still live here
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ted fenton
11:56 Thu Jun 30
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Joe it just went down hill I bought my first place in Manor Park 1974 moved out to Harold Wood in 1981 because it was a much nicer area then onto Frinton which is still like old England (In more ways than one) and a great place to bring my children up.
All good things and all that.
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joe royal
11:49 Thu Jun 30
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What’s quite odd is no one gives a reason for moving away. On a couple of Ilford FB sites and as soon as a pub closes or a shop goes out of business the usual “was such a good night out there/was a brilliant shop merchants pipe up.
I always ask ‘why did you move away’ but never get an answer. (Bit like someone on this site) Got banned from Ilford in pictures for asking that simple question.
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ted fenton
11:45 Thu Jun 30
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Sunday lunchtime at the "Kings" Manuel the Boxing sometimes got out of hand and became a proper ruck !
Used to go in there after football happy days.
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Manuel
11:31 Thu Jun 30
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It is sad, was a bit of a legendary place back when. Even up until the mid-late 90's it was still decent with folk going to the well known clubs there and Kings on a Sunday.
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